MadYak
02-17-2009, 11:40 PM
Hopefully the mods here arn\'t going to delete an interesting bit of drama. But we\'ll see. Everything below the dotted line was quoted word for word from the window I still have open.
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Laokin:
Just ran into a team called Trinity. They were obviously hacking, and this is the trainer they used.
[Edited out a cheat site link here]
[Edited out the cheat\'s name here]
Here is the feature list.
* Aimbot :
o Visibility Checks
o Aim Styles (Off, When firing, Full auto)
o Targeting Styles (Closest Target, Closest to crosshair, Highest Threat, Lowest Health, etc.)
o SlowAim (Off, On) (+ Configurable slow aim speed)
o AimAngle (Off, On) (+ Configurable autoaim rotation angle)
o AutoFire (Off, On)
o FriendlyFire (Off, On)
* Radar :
o 3D Radar (Off, On) (+ Configurable for Players, Vehicles, Grenades, Flags, etc.)
o 2DRadar (Off, On) (+ Configurable radar scale)
o Cross (Off, Cross, Dot, Box, Bounding Box)
o Info Styles (Distance, Playername, Weaponname, Health, Armour)
o Healthbars (Off, On)
* TriggerBot :
o TriggerBot (Off, On)
o TriggerStyle (Instanthit, BulletSpeed and Bulletdrop)
* Corrections :
o Fps Correction (Off, On)
o Ping Correction (Off, On)
o Bulletspeed Correction (Off, On)
o Bulletdrop Correction (Off, On)
* Protection :
o Threat Warning (Off, On)
* Removals/Mics :
o No flashbang/stun effect
o No recoil
* KeyBinder :
o KeyBinds (OnPress, OnRelease)
o HotKey Support
* Profile System :
o Profiles can be saved/loaded
* Graphical User Interface (GUI) :
o Configuration Window with tab menus
* Help :
o Help files (FAQs, Explanations, Examples)
* PB secure
* PB clean sshots
The part that disturbs me the most is the fact that it\'s \"Punk Buster Secure.\" Punk Buster is a lot more complicated than Cal ACS. It\'s also a million dollar budget anti cheat system. Cal ACS can\'t do anything more than scan your active memory. This hack loads in Hard Drive Space. Meaning it will bypass Cal ACS.
What\'s the point in even having a league if you have things like this that exist? I would say, Oh yeah screenshots and a Demo would prove them guilt... but not after looking at the feature list. It takes clean screenshots. It also allows you to toggle AND adjust the auto aiming speed and arc to conceal the cheat. You\'ll never catch anyone half way decent using this.
Any official words from Cal Admins?
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shaftz0r:
LOL
you sure you didn\'t just get really irritated because they walked around all map?
oh and btw, that\'s chapulyas bot, or however you spell it, and is in every single competition game out there, even quake live.
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MadYak:
/wave. I\'m the main one they think was cheating I believe. Cause it\'s real difficult to shoot down a flaming hunter with an autoshotty when he comes in the same window again, no?
To sum up the match:
They don\'t like anyone who uses the room below the hole on the nm2 event. Or the stairs. Or the pipes. Their method only is approved.
They don\'t like anyone who can listen to the tank/hunter noises and shoot them. Clearly aimbotting.
They will dispute you over roster eligibility on game battles if you win(lol).
And just so we\'re clear on the eligibility issues laokin:
I\'m ineligible atm because Booduh changed my handle from MadYak to trinity.MadYak. - Apparently this resets it.
Booduh\'s ineligible because he chanced his handle from trinity-Booduh to take out the - and put an . - Same as above.
Shogg (who\'s been on our CAL roster for weeks) finally got around to getting on the gb roster today.
You might win the dispute cause of Shogg. Frankly, we don\'t really care. It\'ll be worth a forfeit to know you went for a weak roster dispute when you got beaten fairly. The aimbot accusations were just icing on the cake.
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Xanath:
I too have witnessed this h4xx0ring by Trinity. They have these \"sound cards\" that produce \"sound\" so that whenever I spawn nearby, they\'re able to tell exactly where I am. They\'ve also installed a 3rd-party hack known as \"mouse drivers,\" found at http://support.microsoft.com and http://www.razerzone.com, which allow them to alter their targeting at rates not humanly possible. I demand immediate action on behalf of CAL and will not sleep until they\'re burned at the stake.
[I left out his doublepost]
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buLLLet:
you sir are not to bright for posting a link where people can find cheats here... with that kind of intelligence im going to continue giggling until i go to bed tonight since i like to chuckle (and play some Quake Live)
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phiber0ptik (aka Booduh from trinity):
CPL, THEY GOT ME.
/me runs away
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Laokin:
[He quotes my line about shooting a flaming hunter when he comes through the window]
No, it\'s real easy to shoot a hunter down a hallway and around a corner in a closet when he spawns and doesn\'t ever even crouch.
It\'s also REAL easy to watch the smoker when he\'s a ghost, down the hallway next to the medkit cabinet and the closet and have him spawn. I was specing shoggs in first person the whole time demo rolling, he couldn\'t even see the smoker, or the smoke plus he was down the entire hallway so probably couldn\'t even hear him at that distance. RAN ALL THE WAY TO HIM, LOOKED AT HIM and kept the cross hair on him through the wall as he rounded the corner shot a full smoker once and killed him and then ran back.
ALSO, we have demo of Shoggs again pouncing as a hunter getting punched animation for stun going off the sound playing and him landing the pounce anyway.
ALSO REAL easy to do with that hack. It\'s feature is \"Disable stuns.\"
So GG, got it all on demo and I\'m not afraid to sendspace them.
They lost to NM3 6 days before playing to us. We beat NM3 EVERYTIME we played them. EVERYTIME. This team we played right here tonight, trinity.... Greatest Team EVER. Shot EVERYONE before they ever could get line of sight till the 4th map. They had us by a score we couldn\'t beat and then they toggled off and we DESTROYED them. I said why don\'t you turn em back on. Half way through finale they say they did and all of a sudden after using every kit they take -5 damage.
ALSO on DEMO.
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(this one is paraphrased from my memory)
Madyak:
Feel free to spread the demos around, we have nothing to hide. I\'ll post mine up on comml4d tomorrow if people want, since I was the first one you accused of aimbotting in-game.
As I told you in-game, we have our good and bad days as a team, just like anyone else. No Mercy 3 caught us on a bad day and they played better than we did and won the match by 500ish, if memory serves. They deserved the win. You caught us on a day when our gameplay was solid. It also helps that we\'ve scrimmed/matched several of the good teams that play the game (GR, MoB, exe, 51, mollywhop, etc). We\'ve won and lost, but we\'ve played some of the best. We just hadn\'t played you yet, and you hadn\'t played us.
I will admit I cracked up when I told you I was going to alt tab to turn cheats back on and killed those 2 hunters 10 seconds later. You can clearly see in my demo I only paused to type if you don\'t think I was being sarcastic.
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EDIT: Here\'s a link to the rest if you want to read the other 3 pages. link (http://www.privatepaste.com/afCUk4EwfH) - Note that the format doesn\'t do quotes right.
Cheers to good drama.
Shortly after this Laokin got a 4 month ban from CAL for posting a cheat on the forums.
Earlier today, the ban got revoked when I assume he followed CAL|Sean\'s advice an apologized to the admins for doing it.
I also have my demo posted up here on comml4d for anyone that wants to judge for yourselves. Personally I thought our survivor play was good, our regular infected play was decent/solid until map 5, and we did god awful on our tanks besides the first one. Dunno wtf I was thinking during the nm2 tank. Still, it was a decent game.
If anyone has the other pages copied, please PM me and I\'ll add em, this is just half the first page.
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Laokin:
Just ran into a team called Trinity. They were obviously hacking, and this is the trainer they used.
[Edited out a cheat site link here]
[Edited out the cheat\'s name here]
Here is the feature list.
* Aimbot :
o Visibility Checks
o Aim Styles (Off, When firing, Full auto)
o Targeting Styles (Closest Target, Closest to crosshair, Highest Threat, Lowest Health, etc.)
o SlowAim (Off, On) (+ Configurable slow aim speed)
o AimAngle (Off, On) (+ Configurable autoaim rotation angle)
o AutoFire (Off, On)
o FriendlyFire (Off, On)
* Radar :
o 3D Radar (Off, On) (+ Configurable for Players, Vehicles, Grenades, Flags, etc.)
o 2DRadar (Off, On) (+ Configurable radar scale)
o Cross (Off, Cross, Dot, Box, Bounding Box)
o Info Styles (Distance, Playername, Weaponname, Health, Armour)
o Healthbars (Off, On)
* TriggerBot :
o TriggerBot (Off, On)
o TriggerStyle (Instanthit, BulletSpeed and Bulletdrop)
* Corrections :
o Fps Correction (Off, On)
o Ping Correction (Off, On)
o Bulletspeed Correction (Off, On)
o Bulletdrop Correction (Off, On)
* Protection :
o Threat Warning (Off, On)
* Removals/Mics :
o No flashbang/stun effect
o No recoil
* KeyBinder :
o KeyBinds (OnPress, OnRelease)
o HotKey Support
* Profile System :
o Profiles can be saved/loaded
* Graphical User Interface (GUI) :
o Configuration Window with tab menus
* Help :
o Help files (FAQs, Explanations, Examples)
* PB secure
* PB clean sshots
The part that disturbs me the most is the fact that it\'s \"Punk Buster Secure.\" Punk Buster is a lot more complicated than Cal ACS. It\'s also a million dollar budget anti cheat system. Cal ACS can\'t do anything more than scan your active memory. This hack loads in Hard Drive Space. Meaning it will bypass Cal ACS.
What\'s the point in even having a league if you have things like this that exist? I would say, Oh yeah screenshots and a Demo would prove them guilt... but not after looking at the feature list. It takes clean screenshots. It also allows you to toggle AND adjust the auto aiming speed and arc to conceal the cheat. You\'ll never catch anyone half way decent using this.
Any official words from Cal Admins?
************************************************** *
shaftz0r:
LOL
you sure you didn\'t just get really irritated because they walked around all map?
oh and btw, that\'s chapulyas bot, or however you spell it, and is in every single competition game out there, even quake live.
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MadYak:
/wave. I\'m the main one they think was cheating I believe. Cause it\'s real difficult to shoot down a flaming hunter with an autoshotty when he comes in the same window again, no?
To sum up the match:
They don\'t like anyone who uses the room below the hole on the nm2 event. Or the stairs. Or the pipes. Their method only is approved.
They don\'t like anyone who can listen to the tank/hunter noises and shoot them. Clearly aimbotting.
They will dispute you over roster eligibility on game battles if you win(lol).
And just so we\'re clear on the eligibility issues laokin:
I\'m ineligible atm because Booduh changed my handle from MadYak to trinity.MadYak. - Apparently this resets it.
Booduh\'s ineligible because he chanced his handle from trinity-Booduh to take out the - and put an . - Same as above.
Shogg (who\'s been on our CAL roster for weeks) finally got around to getting on the gb roster today.
You might win the dispute cause of Shogg. Frankly, we don\'t really care. It\'ll be worth a forfeit to know you went for a weak roster dispute when you got beaten fairly. The aimbot accusations were just icing on the cake.
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Xanath:
I too have witnessed this h4xx0ring by Trinity. They have these \"sound cards\" that produce \"sound\" so that whenever I spawn nearby, they\'re able to tell exactly where I am. They\'ve also installed a 3rd-party hack known as \"mouse drivers,\" found at http://support.microsoft.com and http://www.razerzone.com, which allow them to alter their targeting at rates not humanly possible. I demand immediate action on behalf of CAL and will not sleep until they\'re burned at the stake.
[I left out his doublepost]
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buLLLet:
you sir are not to bright for posting a link where people can find cheats here... with that kind of intelligence im going to continue giggling until i go to bed tonight since i like to chuckle (and play some Quake Live)
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phiber0ptik (aka Booduh from trinity):
CPL, THEY GOT ME.
/me runs away
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Laokin:
[He quotes my line about shooting a flaming hunter when he comes through the window]
No, it\'s real easy to shoot a hunter down a hallway and around a corner in a closet when he spawns and doesn\'t ever even crouch.
It\'s also REAL easy to watch the smoker when he\'s a ghost, down the hallway next to the medkit cabinet and the closet and have him spawn. I was specing shoggs in first person the whole time demo rolling, he couldn\'t even see the smoker, or the smoke plus he was down the entire hallway so probably couldn\'t even hear him at that distance. RAN ALL THE WAY TO HIM, LOOKED AT HIM and kept the cross hair on him through the wall as he rounded the corner shot a full smoker once and killed him and then ran back.
ALSO, we have demo of Shoggs again pouncing as a hunter getting punched animation for stun going off the sound playing and him landing the pounce anyway.
ALSO REAL easy to do with that hack. It\'s feature is \"Disable stuns.\"
So GG, got it all on demo and I\'m not afraid to sendspace them.
They lost to NM3 6 days before playing to us. We beat NM3 EVERYTIME we played them. EVERYTIME. This team we played right here tonight, trinity.... Greatest Team EVER. Shot EVERYONE before they ever could get line of sight till the 4th map. They had us by a score we couldn\'t beat and then they toggled off and we DESTROYED them. I said why don\'t you turn em back on. Half way through finale they say they did and all of a sudden after using every kit they take -5 damage.
ALSO on DEMO.
**********************************************
(this one is paraphrased from my memory)
Madyak:
Feel free to spread the demos around, we have nothing to hide. I\'ll post mine up on comml4d tomorrow if people want, since I was the first one you accused of aimbotting in-game.
As I told you in-game, we have our good and bad days as a team, just like anyone else. No Mercy 3 caught us on a bad day and they played better than we did and won the match by 500ish, if memory serves. They deserved the win. You caught us on a day when our gameplay was solid. It also helps that we\'ve scrimmed/matched several of the good teams that play the game (GR, MoB, exe, 51, mollywhop, etc). We\'ve won and lost, but we\'ve played some of the best. We just hadn\'t played you yet, and you hadn\'t played us.
I will admit I cracked up when I told you I was going to alt tab to turn cheats back on and killed those 2 hunters 10 seconds later. You can clearly see in my demo I only paused to type if you don\'t think I was being sarcastic.
**************************************************
EDIT: Here\'s a link to the rest if you want to read the other 3 pages. link (http://www.privatepaste.com/afCUk4EwfH) - Note that the format doesn\'t do quotes right.
Cheers to good drama.
Shortly after this Laokin got a 4 month ban from CAL for posting a cheat on the forums.
Earlier today, the ban got revoked when I assume he followed CAL|Sean\'s advice an apologized to the admins for doing it.
I also have my demo posted up here on comml4d for anyone that wants to judge for yourselves. Personally I thought our survivor play was good, our regular infected play was decent/solid until map 5, and we did god awful on our tanks besides the first one. Dunno wtf I was thinking during the nm2 tank. Still, it was a decent game.
If anyone has the other pages copied, please PM me and I\'ll add em, this is just half the first page.