And no, it isn't me.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc160/exodus010/Picture2.png

If only 95% of the community didn't share the belief, I might be able to guess the culprit.

If only 95% of the community didn't share the belief, I might be able to guess the culprit.

631 people minus the number of paragon players = the number of people it could possibly be.

Found another one.

http://communityl4d.com/forums/member.php?u=632

I LoLed too.

Lol..nothing new here boys.

edit: Had to update sig. I don't know how I missed that guy!

Not hard to be undefeated when you have never played a good team in a match. LoLP

If you think timetrials / paragon cheats, you need to buy a new computer.

If you think timetrials / paragon cheats, you need to buy a new computer.

ive seen bad logic and then i have this atrocity of a post. Consider ending your life you unintelligent mutant.











?lol

ive seen bad logic and then i have this atrocity of a post. Consider ending your life you unintelligent mutant.











?lol

I've seen bad logic in my days, too...

But I've also seen bad grammar as well...

paragon #1 infected cup 2 LoLP

interesting... i personally have not had the chance to play them.. but i have heard some very odd stories from teams who have!

interesting... i personally have not had the chance to play them.. but i have heard some very odd stories from teams who have!

Odd stories? I'd love to take a guess as to what people have been telling you. They're a very talanted and coorindated team in my opinion. One of the best, to be honest...

A lot of people just don't seem to understand that, though. Odd... :confused:

indeed... thus my choosing of the word "odd" lol, though i will not judge them cheating / good / bad / noobie until i am able to judge for myself~~~

indeed... thus my choosing of the word "odd" lol, though i will not judge them cheating / good / bad / noobie until i am able to judge for myself~~~

Prepare for a challenge and try not to rip your hair out.

to be honest those are my favorite types of scrims, etc... its how you learn most of the time

to be honest those are my favorite types of scrims, etc... its how you learn most of the time

Tell that to the rage quitters. We played a team once and when we 3-1'ed them, they immediately raged after that. Probably the most convincing rage moment I've ever witnessed in my life.

Not hard to be undefeated when you have never played a good team in a match. LoLP

Your logic is flawed. What makes playing in a "match" [read: A community organized scrim ]so different from an mIRC picked up scrim? I mean, the players are the same, the environment is the same, and the circumstances are the same (every scrim has the same rules.)

Thank you visceral for the kind words. When jamnificent quoted that 95% of the community believes that we hack, the 5% he wasn't referring to were established teams with sensibility about teamwork and individual skill. The 5% he mentioned consists of some of the top teams that can recognize competition when they see it [reason, inex, area 51 and many other notable teams: pretty much everybody in my sig, really].

Your logic is flawed. What makes playing in a "match" [read: A community organized scrim ]so different from an mIRC picked up scrim? I mean, the players are the same, the environment is the same, and the circumstances are the same (every scrim has the same rules.).

well sometimes teams will you scrims to try out new tactics that might not always pan out the way they intend for them to thus leading to mass chaos and causing them to get dominated... matches though people usually stick to what they know works and can hopefully lead them to victory... but most of the time teams try to be e-cool and just wanna win scrims to make them feel good.. so thus i agree with your statement in that their is not much of a difference in the two most of the time.

this reminds me of nautica.exe

Odd stories? I'd love to take a guess as to what people have been telling you. They're a very talanted and coorindated team in my opinion. One of the best, to be honest...

A lot of people just don't seem to understand that, though. Odd... :confused:

coordinated? paragon plays infected like a bunch of retarded kids trying to play football. They are the least coordinated team i have ever seen in comparison to there ability of play survivor. They beat us by 15 points because we couldn't touch them on infected. Whippersnapper mCgee all over the place.

And we probably went for very few 25's. minimizing hang time on our pounces.

coordinated? paragon plays infected like a bunch of retarded kids trying to play football. They are the least coordinated team i have ever seen in comparison to there ability of play survivor.

that gave me a very funny picture in my head :rolleyes:

We try new things in scrims too guys

coordinated? paragon plays infected like a bunch of retarded kids trying to play football. They are the least coordinated team i have ever seen in comparison to there ability of play survivor. They beat us by 15 points because we couldn't touch them on infected. Whippersnapper mCgee all over the place.

And we probably went for very few 25's. minimizing hang time on our pounces.

Pay attention to detail much?

I was obviously talking about their Survivor gameplay, not their Infected gameplay.

i have scrimmed against them a couple times with teams and yah everyone has heard stuff about them...the one thing i remember was, they are like most 16 year old girls...inpenatrable, as survivor!!

coordinated? paragon plays infected like a bunch of retarded kids trying to play football. They are the least coordinated team i have ever seen in comparison to there ability of play survivor. They beat us by 15 points because we couldn't touch them on infected. Whippersnapper mCgee all over the place.

And we probably went for very few 25's. minimizing hang time on our pounces.

So, by your logic, if a good team has poor coordination in one scrim (which don't matter; also determined by your logic) as infected, but maintain their aim on survivor, they hack? Every high scoring close game (health bonus determines the winner) means that one team hacks and the other doesn't?

Terrible.

We try new things in scrims too guys

we tried this new strat where golden would get burned as a tank and then miss every swipe in a small room

They beat us by 15 points because we couldn't touch them on infected. Whippersnapper mCgee all over the place.

If the outcome of scrims matters so little, why would someone go to the trouble to spread bold-faced lies about the outcome of them? You managed to tie us on BH4 health bonus wise only because you took more damage and were given more medpacks. You stacked against a tank with aoe swipes and only didn't wipe because the patch didn't properly apply the mechanic.

On every other level, you took easily triple the damage our team did, but because the scoring is flawed and we weren't able to wipe you, you only lost by a few hundred. Getting a 180 health bonus while limping into the saferoom with med packs is hard.

I can see why you have to be so petty and bitter, though. I forgive you.

this thread is full of furious people.

2/5 for the same crap, just a different game.

this thread is full of furious people.

2/5 for the same crap, just a different game.

You haven't seen furious. Trust me. ;)

So, by your logic, if a good team has poor coordination in one scrim (which don't matter; also determined by your logic) as infected, but maintain their aim on survivor, they hack? Every high scoring close game (health bonus determines the winner) means that one team hacks and the other doesn't?

Terrible.

Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. I was responding to viscrearl saying you have coordination. You don't. You have amazing shots. The only shooting you do on Infected is Rock Sniping and Sniper pulling.

What leads me to the conclusion that you may or may not hack, ( I made this thread cause that forum name made me laugh, i didn't make that forum account) is your incredible, whippernsnapper, 180, 360 bashes that make you untoucheable on survivor. You couldn't do any damage to us because of lack of infected coordination, and even with us going for quad cap after quadcap, we wouldn't be able to land a single pounce/pull w/e cause of your "unreal" ability to counter it.

If the outcome of scrims matters so little, why would someone go to the trouble to spread bold-faced lies about the outcome of them? You managed to tie us on BH4 health bonus wise only because you took more damage and were given more medpacks. You stacked against a tank with aoe swipes and only didn't wipe because the patch didn't properly apply the mechanic.

On every other level, you took easily triple the damage our team did, but because the scoring is flawed and we weren't able to wipe you, you only lost by a few hundred. Getting a 180 health bonus while limping into the saferoom with med packs is hard.

I can see why you have to be so petty and bitter, though. I forgive you.


It would help if i had any idea who you are.

If you are on paragon, this tag team foruming is the most coordination ive seen from your team. And we lost by 15. w0ah

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! But seriously, less arguing on forums, guys. And please note the difference and learn the usage of these words: There, Their, They're.

So, basically paragon is terrible at an easy game so they have to cheat at it. (lolubad) They think Alex called them out and started to flame him, and Mr.Brasco had to show them how the forums work and slayed them like its his day job? amirite?

So, basically paragon is terrible at an easy game so they have to cheat at it. (lolubad) They think Alex called them out and started to flame him, and Mr.Brasco had to show them how the forums work and slayed them like its his day job? amirite?

Wait... this isn't his day job?

Wait... this isn't his day job?

$layin boomers is my day job~

Like I told you in that scrim jam I hope you watched the demos you made and learned how to improve your infected because it was one of the worst I've ever seen. We laughed at your attempted quadcaps because they were so out of sync it was ridiculous... worst infected team of any capable survivor team I've ever seen.

If the outcome of scrims matters so little, why would someone go to the trouble to spread bold-faced lies about the outcome of them? You managed to tie us on BH4 health bonus wise only because you took more damage and were given more medpacks. You stacked against a tank with aoe swipes and only didn't wipe because the patch didn't properly apply the mechanic.

On every other level, you took easily triple the damage our team did, but because the scoring is flawed and we weren't able to wipe you, you only lost by a few hundred. Getting a 180 health bonus while limping into the saferoom with med packs is hard.

I only remember scrimming paragon once in the entire time I've been on MoB Deep. We lost by 150, coming very very close to killing one of your guys with a log on BH5 before fire killed the tank with the incapped guy having less than 100 hp (gg director giving one team mollys and the other not :P).

I distinctly remember the BH4 tank, because stza got caught by the log and killed with it, and it was pretty much our only mistake in the scrim. I have a hard time believing your claim that we stacked vs tank because A) We ALWAYS kite whenever we can, and B) I don't remember the scrim you're talking about, which means you probably played us with backups if it's us you played at all. *Edit*: I've been told the scrim did happen, so obviously I wasn't there, and obviously we had backups playing. Grats on the win, champions :P! Did it occur to you that we knew the aoe tank hits were broken when tehy stacked.


As for Paragon cheating, I'd imagine most of it stems from the fact that they're only decent at infected, but very, very good at survivor. Most good teams are about even in both aspects, but perhaps paragon just spends more time practicing survivor or are just very good survivor players. I don't know, and don't care, seeing as they'll eventually have to go to LANs (assuming there will be some) and/or play on an AC client. Time will tell :P.

$layin boomers is my day job~

And by $ layin do you mean "lay" like in the biblical sense?

I'm pretty sure you can talk to teams that we have scrimmed more then once and they can tell you that our infected game isn't as shitty as you describe it. You took the words out of my mouth though, Madyak.

I only remember scrimming paragon once


You have only scrimmed us once, and are claiming that you know so much about our infected game. Seriously, what basis do you have behind this when we played blood harvest and got early tanks with tier 2 at the first spawn (turning a good map into a shit map). If you scrimmed us multiple times and could judge our game based on experience (read: MORE THAN ONE GAME) you would have an argument, but you haven't.

Anyways, just a quick example to prove my point I'll link a youtube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPyWVT4we4k&feature=channel_page

Yeah, it's just a 3 cap (we got a last stand kill earlier in the scrim) but it's simply a reference to show that we are just as competent as the next team at infected.

Madyak, you subbed in on BH3 for fluke, and you had your starters.

On BH4, you guys piled into the final house because the tank spawned very late into the game. You were on the 1st floor of the house (not the basement) and piled into the back room/closet and stacked, 1 out in front and 3 in the back. Golden, the tank, punched the 1 back into the pile of the 3, and proceeded to swing wildly and only hit one.

We were lacking two of our starters, half our team, and we still won.

The score was something like 7400 to 7100, probably an overestimation. I would reference my demo but the patch made short work of that.

excuses.txt

hey. stop posting my youtube vids.

pro subtitles

sort it out in IC2, till then table the shit talk and accusations.

sort it out in IC2, till then table the shit talk and hackusations.

fixt.

Macro, I never claimed as fact that your infected game was bad, merely in my opinion it's not anywhere close to the level of your survivor play. I'm not the only person who's mentioned it either (and I mean outside of MoB), so its not really much of a stretch to believe. However, I've only scrimmed you guys a grand total of 3-4 times with various teams/pugs, and in all of those games you were consistently great at survivor, and consistently decent at infected. Perhaps I caught you on off days. As I said tho, I'm not real concerned about it as you'll eventually be caught if you are cheating by AC or by sucking at LANs. If you come to a LAN and play the same, I'll be the first to congratulate you.

Jam:

lawl you're counting scrims that a backup plays half the game for as somehow coming out on top over us. I don't need to make excuses, as I frankly don't care whether we won or lost the scrim or whether you believe you > us. I do find it hilarious that you added us to your sig when at best you narrowly beat us in both scrims. Makes me wonder how many of those teams in Macro's sig you actually stomped and how many you just barely beat.

/popcorn for e-drama. See you on sunday for the TWL cup.

Madyak, you subbed in on BH3 for fluke, and you had your starters.

On BH4, you guys piled into the final house because the tank spawned very late into the game. You were on the 1st floor of the house (not the basement) and piled into the back room/closet and stacked, 1 out in front and 3 in the back. Golden, the tank, punched the 1 back into the pile of the 3, and proceeded to swing wildly and only hit one.

We were lacking two of our starters, half our team, and we still won.

The score was something like 7400 to 7100, probably an overestimation. I would reference my demo but the patch made short work of that.

excuses.txt

ok then we were lacking staters also, since the one time i played you, stza died bh4 with a log right in the beginning. considering we never concerned up on BH4 that is either an utter lie, most likely from a shady mongoloid like yourself, or a differn't scrim where we both didn't have starters.

I'm glad you think I care about your opinion of me. What's even funnier is that you think I am more than even marginally concerned with you. Just going off your behavior in IRC and basically every forum post, you are far from the people I would want to associate with, and I don't care to bicker with your kind, morons and trolls, for any longer than necessary.

I only post because otherwise these paragon-bashing threads and IRC conversations would continue on this ridiculous trend of two or three people spouting unfounded claims and all the lemmings taking their word as law.

You call my ability to play into question and I respond by pointing out your "evidence" as a lie. I'm not commenting on your team, boasting of my greatness, or anything of that nature. I don't discuss scrims and I don't consider us unbeatable. Our gameplay isn't perfect and neither is yours. So, rather than talk shit and call us all your childish names, why not quit bitching and defaming us and just play the game? I wouldn't care except you pathetic children have been waging such a tenacious crusade against us that other teams are actually growing to hate us based on word of mouth.

You make these sprawling blanket statements about everyone on the team, most of which you have never played with or even talked to, based on the behavior of one. Do I have to cut Cheesy (Macro) before you people realize that I disagree with damn near everything he says and does on these forums, and he in no way represents the rest of the team in his tireless efforts of trolling and douchebaggery?

You don't know us yet, but you will soon. Until then, kindly shut the fuck up. THAAAAAANKS ^-^

I hope paragon wins IC2, I'll have many more entertaining threads to read.

other teams are actually growing to hate us based on word of mouth.

Quoted for truth...

i like your sig Visceral

i like your sig Visceral

Thanks. The original size and quality (unfortunately) do not work on this forum due to the capped restrictions in the User CP. So I had to toy around with it until it met the limitations. Oh well... at least I know that I have the better, original copy. :p

I'm glad you think I care about your opinion of me. What's even funnier is that you think I am more than even marginally concerned with you. Just going off your behavior in IRC and basically every forum post, you are far from the people I would want to associate with, and I don't care to bicker with your kind, morons and trolls, for any longer than necessary.

I only post because otherwise these paragon-bashing threads and IRC conversations would continue on this ridiculous trend of two or three people spouting unfounded claims and all the lemmings taking their word as law.

You call my ability to play into question and I respond by pointing out your "evidence" as a lie. I'm not commenting on your team, boasting of my greatness, or anything of that nature. I don't discuss scrims and I don't consider us unbeatable. Our gameplay isn't perfect and neither is yours. So, rather than talk shit and call us all your childish names, why not quit bitching and defaming us and just play the game? I wouldn't care except you pathetic children have been waging such a tenacious crusade against us that other teams are actually growing to hate us based on word of mouth.

You make these sprawling blanket statements about everyone on the team, most of which you have never played with or even talked to, based on the behavior of one. Do I have to cut Cheesy (Macro) before you people realize that I disagree with damn near everything he says and does on these forums, and he in no way represents the rest of the team in his tireless efforts of trolling and douchebaggery?

You don't know us yet, but you will soon. Until then, kindly shut the fuck up. THAAAAAANKS ^-^

you do realize my only intention in this thread was to give everyone a quick LoL @ someone making forum accounts against you?

I'm glad you think I care about your opinion of me. What's even funnier is that you think I am more than even marginally concerned with you. Just going off your behavior in IRC and basically every forum post, you are far from the people I would want to associate with, and I don't care to bicker with your kind, morons and trolls, for any longer than necessary.

If you truely didn't care at all about all this... you wouldn't have taken the time to post such a book of a post

you do realize my only intention in this thread was to give everyone a quick LoL @ someone making forum accounts against you?

I'm going to go ahead and forgo posting in this thread after this post, but don't try and claim innocence when you obviously started it. It's one thing for us to get accused of hacking, but when a player from a "top" team calls our entire team hackers, we are obligated to defend ourselves.

Source:: http://communityl4d.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2328&postcount=9

In regards to visceral saying that we don't hack.

ive seen bad logic and then i have this atrocity of a post. Consider ending your life you unintelligent mutant.


?lol

Basically, when you lose an argument and have nothing to say because of it, don't try and claim that you innocent.

why not quit bitching and defaming us and just play the game?

I have a question; how is anybody defaming you when you haven't accomplished anything besides practice wins? At any rate it's a shame you can't watch your demos of infected vs. us because it could really help your game play. The community needs more well rounded teams (can play both sides proficiently). Lastly one of the funniest things I heard last night was MadYak stating that maybe you guys just practice survivor side more. I laughed and asked how does one practice survivor side more besides running maps.

I also think it's extremely entertaining that you would post a 3cap video and claim that it proves your profiency at playing infected side. You have to admit your survivor play is tier 1 while your infected side is 3rd to 4th tier.

Basically, when you lose an argument and have nothing to say because of it, don't try and claim that you innocent.

i made the thread simply for the LoL. when viscreal said buy a new computer if you think they cheat i had to respond. I do think you guys are shady but the original post was simply to laff @ the person made the forum account based on it.

and no, i haven't lost my argument since cevo starts in a few weeks we will see then.

hey is this the new thing? every shitty team that calls you a hacker you should put it into your signature!

EDIT: And about the defaming.. to be honest if you guys would stop trying to defend yourselves in a pointless thread it would almost make the people talking about it look pretty stupid, but instead you just keep adding wood to the fire.

I LOVE SKITTLES!!~

no, resces pieces ~

I LOVE SKITTLES!!~

I like 3 Muskateers... <3

I like 3 Muskateers... <3

They are god, but SKITTLES are better i think :p

They are god, but SKITTLES are better i think :p

Skittles get nasty, though. You can't go wrong with chocolate. It's great for any occasion and a perfect aphrodisiac on any woman. :D

a perfect aphrodisiac on any woman. :D


which point of view are you looking at this from?:eek:

which point of view are you looking at this from?:eek:

It's a little thing called your imagination. I suggest you use it! :p

This thread is now about candy. Go.

Join in on the fun, buddy! :o

Panda Bars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPyWVT4we4k&feature=channel_page


I was ghosting and screamed so loud at the two who didn't move from that pounce that not only did my team more or less rage off Vent, but my neighbors knocked on the wall and started yelling at me in Spanish (again).

I wish everyone would just stop picking on us; seriously, I'm the only white guy in my building and I get very loud when we're losing. You're going to get me killed.

i like skittles

your kind, morons and trolls

So, rather than talk shit and call us all your childish names

I wouldn't care except you pathetic children



You make these sprawling blanket statements about everyone on the team, most of which you have never played with or even talked to, based on the behavior of one. Do I have to cut Cheesy (Macro) before you people realize that I disagree with damn near everything he says and does on these forums, and he in no way represents the rest of the team in his tireless efforts of trolling and douchebaggery?

I really couldn't resist pointing out your hypocrisy here. You try condemn us for being childish, yet you do the same thing in the post you condemn us :P.

Btw in regard to blanket statements: Arn't you applying the same to us? You assume Alex represents our whole team. Frankly, if you take anything Alex says remotely serious, you clearly haven't been on l4d forums long. Railz is some sort of mexican, so his opinion clearly doesn't count either.

For that matter, our entire team is a bunch of drama whores, as we all enjoy riling people up. And you have taken this thread *entirely* too seriously lol. MoB Deep's "crusade" against paragon is pretty much limited to this thread, which is mostly fueled by your own posts jam.



On a more serious note:
As for the rumor of you guys cheating, that didn't originate with us, as I remember it being common back when I was with Trinity. The reason its common is simple: multiple people have mentioned your survivor side is one of the best in the game, but your infected is not. It looks a bit shady, but like I said, who gives a shit? If you are cheating, you'll eventually be caught out by AC/Lans, and if you have no issue with either, then the rumor will die and you guys will be seen as legit.


MoB Deep - Deep in Drama.

I was accused of aimbotting yesterday as survivor, it was pretty funny. I always pick off dumb hunters making dumb pounces and spam obvious smoker/boomer spots... so sorry if you come to the wrath of my m16.

I've played Paragon and they've gotten some strange shots on me when I was silent and unseen... but I don't accuse them of hacking. It's frustrating being killed like that, but I'm at the point where I'm aware of where special infected are going to be all the time and can understand why lesser experienced players would see that as hacking.

But hey if you do use wallhacks, good luck in LANs.

I was accused of aimbotting yesterday as survivor, it was pretty funny. I always pick off dumb hunters and spam obvious smoker/boomer spots... so sorry if you come to the wrath of my m16.

I've played Paragon and they've gotten some strange shots on me when I was silent and unseen... but I don't accuse them of hacking. It's frustrating being killed like that, but I'm at the point where I'm aware of where special infected are going to be all the time and can understand why lesser experienced players would see that as hacking.

But hey if you do use wallhacks, good luck in LANs.

CHEATER!.... lol :rolleyes:

CHEATER!.... lol :rolleyes:

Jerkstore has a lethal m16, no doubt about that...

But he can't hold a candle to my auto shotgun. <3 :p

that reminds me... i have a thread i want to start!~

Jerkstore has a lethal m16, no doubt about that...

But he can't hold a candle to my auto shotgun. <3 :p
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2641/bitchplease.jpg

I was accused of aimbotting yesterday as survivor, it was pretty funny. I always pick off dumb hunters making dumb pounces and spam obvious smoker/boomer spots... so sorry if you come to the wrath of my m16.

I've played Paragon and they've gotten some strange shots on me when I was silent and unseen... but I don't accuse them of hacking. It's frustrating being killed like that, but I'm at the point where I'm aware of where special infected are going to be all the time and can understand why lesser experienced players would see that as hacking.

But hey if you do use wallhacks, good luck in LANs.

You hold a special cheater place in my heart jerkstore. ;)

Edit: Lol at the pikachu pic.

Railz is some sort of mexican, so his opinion clearly doesn't count either.




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http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2641/bitchplease.jpg

:eek:

Here, I was hoping you people would just shutup about us and stop trying to sling shit on our names. Expecting even the slightest ounce of civility on the internet is about as stupid as the trolls that populate it.

If you truely didn't care at all about all this... you wouldn't have taken the time to post such a book of a post
I clearly said "I only post because otherwise these paragon-bashing threads and IRC conversations would continue on this ridiculous trend of two or three people spouting unfounded claims and all the lemmings taking their word as law." Misquote.

you do realize my only intention in this thread was to give everyone a quick LoL @ someone making forum accounts against you?
Not hard to be undefeated when you have never played a good team in a match. LoLP
coordinated? paragon plays infected like a bunch of retarded kids trying to play football. They are the least coordinated team i have ever seen in comparison to there ability of play survivor. They beat us by 15 points because we couldn't touch them on infected. Whippersnapper mCgee all over the place.
Like I even need to say anything.

So, basically paragon is terrible at an easy game so they have to cheat at it. (lolubad) They think Alex called them out and started to flame him, and Mr.Brasco had to show them how the forums work and slayed them like its his day job? amirite?
Unfounded claim, and he clearly did "call us out."

I really couldn't resist pointing out your hypocrisy here. You try condemn us for being childish, yet you do the same thing in the post you condemn us :P.

Btw in regard to blanket statements: Arn't you applying the same to us? You assume Alex represents our whole team. Frankly, if you take anything Alex says remotely serious, you clearly haven't been on l4d forums long. Railz is some sort of mexican, so his opinion clearly doesn't count either.

For that matter, our entire team is a bunch of drama whores, as we all enjoy riling people up. And you have taken this thread *entirely* too seriously lol. MoB Deep's "crusade" against paragon is pretty much limited to this thread, which is mostly fueled by your own posts jam.



On a more serious note:
As for the rumor of you guys cheating, that didn't originate with us, as I remember it being common back when I was with Trinity. The reason its common is simple: multiple people have mentioned your survivor side is one of the best in the game, but your infected is not. It looks a bit shady, but like I said, who gives a shit? If you are cheating, you'll eventually be caught out by AC/Lans, and if you have no issue with either, then the rumor will die and you guys will be seen as legit.


MoB Deep - Deep in Drama.

Reading comprehension. First of all, my criticisms against "trolls and morons" is intentionally ambiguous. Not once did I say "MoB does this" or anything remotely close that can be construed as a criticism against you. If you don't think it applies to you, maybe it's because it doesn't? You also call me a hypocrite even though you just accused me of lumping you in with your teammates AND THEN you lump me in with Cheesy's actions. IRONY.

There are trolls all over the COMMUNITY. So when I post on the COMMUNITY forums and address the COMMUNITY because of our tainted reputation in the COMMUNITY, I am clearly only talking to some dude named Madyak.

If you also bothered to read the other part of my post, I base my "conclusions" on behavior on the forums (the FORUMS, not just THIS THREAD) as well as IRC. My outcry against the incessant flaming and childish behavior is based on more than one dude saying I'm bad.

Get over yourself.

Also, to address those that don't know what the word defame means :
Defame - To damage the reputation, character, or good name of by slander or libel

People accuse me of hacking all the time. And I do mean every time I play, I get accused more often than not. So, being accused isn't a big deal to me, even from a "top-tier player." However, it becomes an issue when people take it so far as to try to organize a boycott against playing my team community-wide. People constantly turn us down for scrims because so many people cry wolf for no reason other than some other idiot was doing it first. It's a witch hunt and if you sit idly by during the lynching process, you can't be surprised when you get burned at the stake by a mob of stupid kids.

P.S. you can call my accusation of this behavior to be hypocritical when I state that "name-calling" is both pathetic and childish. However, do you really think me calling someone childish for calling me a retarded idiot faggot is all that hypocritical? There you go professing to know me and judge me based off nothing. How hypocritical.

I just want people to give us a chance. If it means an e-war with trolls, then so be it. And no I didn't proofread this and yes, for you high school kids this may seem like an essay.

Here, I was hoping you people would just shutup about us and stop trying to sling shit on our names. Expecting even the slightest ounce of civility on the internet is about as stupid as the trolls that populate it.


I clearly said "I only post because otherwise these paragon-bashing threads and IRC conversations would continue on this ridiculous trend of two or three people spouting unfounded claims and all the lemmings taking their word as law." Misquote.




Like I even need to say anything.


Unfounded claim, and he clearly did "call us out."



Reading comprehension. First of all, my criticisms against "trolls and morons" is intentionally ambiguous. Not once did I say "MoB does this" or anything remotely close that can be construed as a criticism against you. If you don't think it applies to you, maybe it's because it doesn't? You also call me a hypocrite even though you just accused me of lumping you in with your teammates AND THEN you lump me in with Cheesy's actions. IRONY.

There are trolls all over the COMMUNITY. So I when I post on the COMMUNITY forums and address the COMMUNITY because of our tainted reputation in the COMMUNITY, I am clearly only talking to some dude named Madyak.

If you also bothered to read the other part of my post, I base my "conclusions" on behavior on the forums (the FORUMS, not just THIS THREAD) as well as IRC. My outcry against the incessant flaming and childish behavior is based on more than one dude saying I'm bad.

Get over yourself.

Also, to address those that don't know what the word defame means :
Defame - To damage the reputation, character, or good name of by slander or libel

People accuse me of hacking all the time. And I do mean every time I play, I get accused more often than not. So, being accused isn't a big deal to me, even from a "top-tier player." However, it becomes an issue when people take it so far as to try to organize a boycott against playing my team community-wide. People constantly turn us down for scrims because so many people cry wolf for no reason other than some other idiot was doing it first. It's a witch hunt and if you sit idly by during the lynching process, you can't be surprised when you get burned at the stake by a mob of stupid kids.

P.S. you can call my accusation of this behavior to be hypocritical when I state that "name-calling" is both pathetic and childish. However, do you really think me calling someone childish for calling me a retarded idiot faggot is all that hypocritical? There you go professing to know me and judge me based off nothing. How hypocritical.

I just want people to give us a chance. If it means an e-war with trolls, then so be it. And no I didn't proofread this and yes, for you high school kids this may seem like an essay.

people get called cheaters all the time and at least every team worth mentioning has. You do realize what fuels me to continue posting is you posting back. if no one responded to my stupid threads i wouldn't have and threads to troll.

congratulations, i just $layed you with logic.

Im glad you can can write a wall of text and think that half the people on these forums will bother to read it. LoLP

MoB gets accused of hacking? lol

for you high school kids this may seem like an essay.




Im glad you can can write a wall of text and think that half the people on these forums will bother to read it. LoLP

Let me see if I'm doing this right.

LoLP

Let me see if I'm doing this right.

LoLP

pretty obvious i didn't even read it if i didn't see that line. :p

I am very disappointed in these cheating accusations. Paragon/timetrial has been a staple of this community for a very long time and they are all fine, upstanding young men. Probably one of them is even an Eagle Scout. Have some respect.

I am very disappointed in these cheating accusations. Paragon/timetrial has been a staple of this community for a very long time and they are all fine, upstanding young men. Probably one of them is even an Eagle Scout. Have some respect.

my bad.

apologies to paragon.

my bad.

apologies to paragon.


I was kinda expection a /sarcasim.


Now I dont know what to believe

I was kinda expection a /sarcasim.


Now I dont know what to believe

i ususaly put a disclaimer when my posts are serious, so taking any post i make seriously is silly, which is why paragon getting mad over this thread is hilarious.

why are all of you idiots using the LoLP bind alex you're not even in LP you jew.


also, why don't we all cry about something. or something.

My team has enough proof to know jam cheats and it is funny how people are calling him out. He can see people's ghost before they spawn hence why you always catch him prefiring at ghosts behind trees in case they do spawn. And their are cheats for this game which makes it even more likely you have a sense of how to use google and how to use paypal.

My team has enough proof to know jam cheats and it is funny how people are calling him out. He can see people's ghost before they spawn hence why you always catch him prefiring at ghosts behind trees in case they do spawn. And their are cheats for this game which makes it even more likely you have a sense of how to use google and how to use paypal.

post it

people get called cheaters all the time and at least every team worth mentioning has. You do realize what fuels me to continue posting is you posting back. if no one responded to my stupid threads i wouldn't have and threads to troll.

congratulations, i just $layed you with logic.

Im glad you can can write a wall of text and think that half the people on these forums will bother to read it. LoLP


tl;dr.

My team has enough proof to know jam cheats and it is funny how people are calling him out. He can see people's ghost before they spawn hence why you always catch him prefiring at ghosts behind trees in case they do spawn. And their are cheats for this game which makes it even more likely you have a sense of how to use google and how to use paypal.


DEMOS or it didnt happen.


Now if only there was a place where you could upload demos too......



hmmmm



FOUND 1

www.communityl4d.com (http://www.communityl4d.com) must have popped up over night.

After calling him out and him turning them off, we suddenly ended up picking him apart. Was pretty interesting none the less. Never going to bother playing them again. I ended up recording the demo after the ghosting incident. After playing CS 1.6 for like 8 years ( and still playing) I know a cheater when I see one. And after the research I did I know their are hacks out there for this game, so I can't be too sure who is legit and who isn't but for sure this kid jam is definately not legit 100%.

*sigh*... and then u all wonder why Console > PC.

I am a PC person myself... but there's waaaaay less of these "incidents" on console.

I just thought i'd add that.. remembering Ridley's incident :) LOL

After calling him out and him turning them off, we suddenly ended up picking him apart. Was pretty interesting none the less. Never going to bother playing them again. I ended up recording the demo after the ghosting incident. After playing CS 1.6 for like 8 years ( and still playing) I know a cheater when I see one. And after the research I did I know their are hacks out there for this game, so I can't be too sure who is legit and who isn't but for sure this kid jam is definately not legit 100%.

Complete fabrication.

http://www.yamoslair.com/sounds/assume.wav

http://www.yamoslair.com/sounds/assume.wav

oh great now your wanting to log my keys!!!! :eek:

oh great now your wanting to log my keys!!!! :eek:

I knew it!!!! Leave it to the hacker!!! :mad: lol :p

Complete fabrication.

http://www.yamoslair.com/sounds/assume.wav

I dunno, the story sounded pretty legit to me.

Whatever you say dude, can't wait till the day you get caught and we can all look back on how pathetic it was.

Mmm, upload your proof so I can laugh at jam

Whatever you say dude, can't wait till the day you get caught and we can all look back on how pathetic it was.

what about "My team has enough proof to know jam cheats and it is funny how people are calling him out. He can see people's ghost before they spawn hence why you always catch him prefiring at ghosts behind trees in case they do spawn. And their are cheats for this game which makes it even more likely you have a sense of how to use google and how to use paypal. "

Does your proof = "i saw it with my own eyes!" ?

oops

yeah, we're pretty much a group of blatant cheaters who have never played any competitive games in the past.

#naturalselection
#paragonl4d

pz

Mmm, CAL-I NS takes over the WORLD

Mmm, CAL-I NS takes over the WORLD

I started with YM

GSO

get shit on

i usually put a disclaimer when my posts are serious, so taking any post i make seriously is silly, which is why paragon getting mad over this thread is hilarious.


http://lemmycaution.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/successful-troll-is-successful.jpg

Seems pretty understandable when 90% of rage threads are started by you alex. Like kindling to the fire...The community should just have a demo's section tab with big bold letters saying "POST YOUR HACKS HERE"

http://lemmycaution.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/successful-troll-is-successful.jpg

Seems pretty understandable when 90% of rage threads are started by you alex. Like kindling to the fire...The community should just have a demo's section tab with big bold letters saying "POST YOUR HACKS HERE"

someone has it figured out. :p

someone has it figured out. :p
http://obli.net/media/1/20050818-how-about-a-nice-cup-of-shut-the-fuck-up.jpg

http://obli.net/media/1/20050818-how-about-a-nice-cup-of-shut-the-fuck-up.jpg

ian i love you, why is it you are constantly trying to bring me down.

I am very disappointed in these cheating accusations. Paragon/timetrial has been a staple of this community for a very long time and they are all fine, upstanding young men. Probably one of them is even an Eagle Scout. Have some respect.

First off, if you want to gain respect, you have to be humble. Going around making pictures, icons, crazy topics in your channel about being undefeated, etc will get you blacklisted. The game is way too new to jump to conclusions such as being "undefeatedlolgetraped." You have yet to earn any kind of award or win any kind of match yet you enjoy firing up the teams that have. If Omerta doesn't come to mind then you haven't been around long enough.

I've heard time and time again that certain people on your team do not share the same views as others. If this was the case, you would've done something to stop said person from running his mouth all over the community. It makes me sick every time I join your channel and see your ridiculous topics. You guys really do want to be the toilet of this community.

Scrims mean nothing.
Example: We scrimmed MoB a few times and things were very close. We played them in an official match for the finals and won by a lot. (no offense mob, trying to prove a point about scrims < matches) Why is this? People tend to play scrims to learn how to improve on things and don't really care about the outcome. Sure, it may be a little serious for some, but at the end of the day no one would really give a damn if you win or lose. I'm very happy for you guys that you are undefeated in scrims, but that means jack shit to anyone else here.

If you want respect, you must earn it. Until then, admit that you were wrong and that you shouldn't even be considering yourselves as a top team until you prove it. As of now, you are nothing but a shit-talking PUG team to me, but I'd love to be proven otherwise.

Dant and jam are awesome, though. ;)

As of now, you are nothing but a shit-talking PUG team to me, but I'd love to be proven otherwise.

Be careful what you wish for though, Ridley. :eek:

Note: I (and I imagine the rest of MoB) completely disagree with ridley's "srs bzns" attitude. Please continue mocking other teams (including mob, as we really don't care), cause macro's sig is still utterly hilarious.




Edit: This thread gets a gold star for entertainment value, not gunna lie.

Note: I (and I imagine the rest of MoB) completely disagree with ridley's "srs bzns" attitude. Please continue mocking other teams (including mob, as we really don't care), cause macro's sig is still utterly hilarious.




Edit: This thread gets a gold star for entertainment value, not gunna lie.

Why not 5 gold stars?

Why not 5 gold stars?

I'm a stingy bastard and I like my pretty stars too much to share.

I'm a stingy bastard and I like my pretty stars too much to share.

But this is a community!!! :mad:

I've heard time and time again that certain people on your team do not share the same views as others. If this was the case, you would've done something to stop said person from running his mouth all over the community. It makes me sick every time I join your channel and see your ridiculous topics. You guys really do want to be the toilet of this community.

Actually jamon has talked to me in vent and I HAVE stopped trolling and have only posted when my team has been degraded by hooligans like yourself. If anything, Ridley, you have a bigger Napolean Complex then any of the members of Paragon because, well, you keep making ignorant claims about our team and running your mouth about how we are nobodies.

Anyways, I have never posted anything degrading to ANYBODY since Jamon confronted me about my previous demeanor, and am happy with the way I am posting now. So, before you start typing your little tirade and feeling accomplished about what a beautiful response you posted, make sure your statements are fact worthy. Go through my communityl4d posting history and you will DEFINITELY see a trend in the way I have posted since I first registered. I am a lot more mellow and only post when my team is mentioned first.

Going around making pictures, icons, crazy topics in your channel about being undefeated

You see Ridley, just glancing at your post, I found something that is extremely outdated. The last time that our mIRC channels (nobody asked you to join them anyways) had a topic about us being undefeated was more then a month ago [read further: Before Jamon confronted me about my posting]. Ever since then, our topic in #timetrial has been referenced to our sponsorship with paragon, and our topic in #paragonl4d has been about paragon being proud to sponsor team #timetrial.


You have yet to earn any kind of award or win any kind of match yet you enjoy firing up the teams that have.


If you want respect, you must earn it. Until then, admit that you were wrong and that you shouldn't even be considering yourselves as a top team until you prove it. As of now, you are nothing but a shit-talking PUG team to me, but I'd love to be proven otherwise.

You seem to not be able to grasp that the so called "tournaments" you are participating in are just "Community Organized Scrims." Seriously, don't get to full of yourself because you won the RIP CAL tourney when, if I may, one of the top teams wasn't invited; especially a team that has proven that they can compete with any of the finalists. I'm not taking any credit away from you, though; don't get my words mixed up.

Seriously, don't be so ignorant. Get off your soapbox and rewrite your post with facts instead of month-old garbage.

poop scoop badoop

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I do believe that Paragon, minus cheesy, does have potential to be a cool team... especially after having a nice discussion with jam. I look forward to playing you guys in both TWL and IC2.

hugs for everyone

I do believe that Paragon, minus cheesy, does have potential to be a cool team... especially after having a nice discussion with jam. I look forward to playing you guys in both TWL and IC2.

I think that area 51, minus Ridley, has the potential to be "cool team" on the internet.

I can do that too.

Don't look at me... wasn't my idea. lol

Don't look at me... wasn't my idea. lol

I noticed in your signature that you're down to 5 members. What is happening down in the neighborhood?

I noticed in your signature that you're down to 5 members. What is happening down in the neighborhood?

who else was on the team?

who else was on the team?

2 or 3 other fellas that I recall being on their gamebattles roster.

who else was on the team?

Khami, rabidcrab.

Khami, rabidcrab.

That's who it was. Thank you! :)

They haven't played with us in over 2 months... so we just removed them from the roster. lol

They haven't played with us in over 2 months... so we just removed them from the roster. lol

Interesting... I guess that's reason enough.

They haven't played with us in over 2 months... so we just removed them from the roster. lol

What ever happened to princess butterc- oh right..:p

What ever happened to princess butterc- oh right..:p

YOU MEAN...NAUTICA?

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/5d2fe2ec9bcec956c49a844bb68bb0ffad4f5376.png
(http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/5d2fe2ec9bcec956c49a844bb68bb0ffad4f5376.png)

o lawd they hung Louis.

o lawd they hung Luis.

learn to spell you mongoloid, it's Louis.

mongoloid

oh ok

oh ok

makes me laugh everytime.