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-Omerta-
05-04-2010, 04:32 PM
This is gonna be really open ended with little information but

Ever since i upgraded from my 7800 graphics cards to my 9800 graphics card i cant seem to play any game except hon without it crashing over an X amount of time. The only way i can fix it is by restarting my computer.

I THINK since i have to restart to do this that it's a problem with my RAM, being as it restarts my physical memory, but i'm not too certain.

I'm gonna be getting a new HD soon from a buddy 150 gig 10+ rpms WD raptor gonna use my old HD just for storage and the raptor for my OS. Hopefully this will fix my loading problems with games.

I only have 1 gig of ram with a 32 bit XP OS. it's 2x 512 800 mhz corsair dominator's. I'm looking at getting more ram with this...

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Memory+Master+-+2-Pack+1GB+PC2-6400+DDR2+DIMM+Memory+Kit/9359963.p?PID=1374931&id=1218090908518&ci_sku=9359963&ref=39&ci_src=11138&loc=01&URL=http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9359963&type=product&id=1218090908518&ci_src=11138&ci_sku=9359963&SID=1432549&AID=10474050&skuId=9359963

aetch
05-04-2010, 05:31 PM
check the card temps first, sometimes the heatsink isn't seated correctly

also, verify the problem exists with more than one game

rehpyc
05-04-2010, 08:27 PM
With only 1gb of ram.. you're not going to see a huge improvement in loading times with a raptor. It's time to get that computer out of the stone age :o

-Omerta-
05-05-2010, 07:56 AM
It's not the cards heat at all i checked. Yeah i know it's the ram now, my problem is. Is that i cant buy the ram i want because best buy refuses to take my debt card = /

Also i HAVE to get 2x ram sticks, my MOBO runs ram in duel channel

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Memory+Master+-+2-Pack+1GB+PC2-6400+DDR2+DIMM+Memory+Kit/9359963.p?PID=1374931&id=1218090908518&ci_sku=9359963&ref=39&ci_src=11138&loc=01&URL=http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9359963&type=product&id=1218090908518&ci_src=11138&ci_sku=9359963&SID=1432549&AID=10474050&skuId=9359963

Who wants to loan me money or get me an early birthday present?[21st birthday aug 22nd] :D I'll personally teach you how to play HoN? :(.

It's only 61$ with shipping, i have the CASH but no way to purchase online as i owe both my banks buttloads of money from overdrafting "Fees".

Was stuck in chitown, lost a 20$ bill to take a train back home and had to overdraw to get money for a ticket (30$ to Overdraw) then 5$ per day over drawn, it's a joke. Also if you wanna buy me a long USB extension strip that'd be great.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Belkin+-+4-Port+Desktop+USB+Hub+-+Black/9473991.p?id=1218111187778&skuId=9473991

This one seems nice, my USB ports are all jacked up and is fucking with my headset pretty bad. This port looks like it doesn't come with a USB extension cable though. Bleh.

rehpyc
05-05-2010, 12:19 PM
What if you got a part-time job in place of all your gaming? :x

It's been a long time since I've read about where the better performance is between running 2gb (2 sticks) in dual channel vs running 3gb (3 sticks) in single channel. Some newer motherboards will run the 2 sticks in dual channel and the 3rd in single channel, but your motherboard is most likely well before that technology. As for upgrading from 1gb.. running 2gb will probably give you more performance in single channel than 1gb in dual channel alone. BUT, some older motherboards not only support dual channel but also requires use of dual channel (even # sticks). Before you cut yourself short, I'd look into if your motherboard requires use of dual channel or just supports it.

With that said, one thing you will need to keep in mind is that ram can be very picky. Different brand of memory may not care to work well together despite being the same speed and having the same voltage requirements and timings.

-Omerta-
05-05-2010, 12:29 PM
I have like..500$ in cash on me, i just dont have a method of purchasing it online.

As for your ram being picky, eh as long as the timings and Volts match up their should be absolutely no problem for duel channel to pick them up.

rehpyc
05-05-2010, 12:55 PM
Get a credit card? :p

Ram can be picky. Whenever you get 2 different brands of ram, there is a gamble. The probability of the sticks working together IS higher than them not, but there still a significant chance they won't.

-Omerta-
05-05-2010, 01:08 PM
Get a credit card? :p

Ram can be picky. Whenever you get 2 different brands of ram, there is a gamble. The probability of the sticks working together IS higher than them not, but there still a significant chance they won't.

Man, you're all worked up about the first DDR stages. DDR-2 & 3 work different now. Ram Ghz are even crossable speed wise now (they just adjust to the lower speeds)

Also, fuck no on the Credit card.

rehpyc
05-05-2010, 02:09 PM
I think you're reading too much into what I'm saying.. I'm not saying there is a high probability that the ram won't work well together, or that I am ignorant about how the ram can have different speed/timings and still run fine at together. I'm simply saying there still is always a gamble -- it's not entirely foolproof. Lighten up.

With that said, I think you have your answer and we can /thread. GL with your 'duel' channel and hardware issues.

aetch
05-05-2010, 06:20 PM
basically, what he's saying, the ram really needs to be the exact same to work best, or at least be able to run in the same ranges in timings and voltage.

also, if you are running mismatched ram, you 100% need to set manual ram timings in the BIOS. it might work for a while with auto, the the chance of the system blue-screening is much higher if the timings are off

-Omerta-
05-06-2010, 10:43 AM
ugh. what part of the ram im buying is exactly the same in every type of spec dont you guys understand? lol. they are just different brands. I KNOW about what you're saying

rehpyc
05-06-2010, 08:49 PM
we understand that you understand, we just want to see how many times you'll call it 'duel' channel

-Omerta-
05-07-2010, 01:33 AM
we understand that you understand, we just want to see how many times you'll call it 'duel' channel

we understand that you understand that her understands that duel channel is an understanding. Do you understand the understanding?

docphilosophy
05-07-2010, 03:57 AM
stop it my head hurts

xan
05-07-2010, 10:31 AM
if $20 overdraws your checking account RAM is possibly a bad purchase.

rehpyc
05-07-2010, 12:08 PM
and it wouldn't have happened if you simply had a credit card, which would also sort out issues of you not being able to purchase things online (something that often let's you avoid paying sales tax, and you can also often find places that will provide free shipping) ;]

-Omerta-
05-07-2010, 02:03 PM
Credit cards are for women, i've had 2 debt cards. 1 has 62 cents in the checking account and the other i owe alot of money lol.

rehpyc
05-07-2010, 03:24 PM
Do you keep purposely calling them 'debt' cards because you are poor at managing your funds, or is it just another 'duel' channel deal?

Enlighten us as to how credit cards are for women.

xan
05-07-2010, 03:41 PM
Yep, I just checked again , I have a cock. And credit cards. I do not understand

-Omerta-
05-07-2010, 05:37 PM
Do you keep purposely calling them 'debt' cards because you are poor at managing your funds, or is it just another 'duel' channel deal?

Enlighten us as to how credit cards are for women.

Uhhh..because around here they are Called DEBT cards when they are directly linked to your checking account. Then they are called CREDIT cards when you actually dont have the money and you pay it off as a end of the month bill.

Basically my ATM card is a DEBT card which can be used as a CREDIT card if i had funds in my checking account but instead of paying a bill, it drains my money directly from my checking account.

You get it?

In order to get a CREDIT card you have to have a good line of CREDIT to begin with, and i dont.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/xXCloudStrifeXx/dbtcard.jpg

Here's proof fag.

rehpyc
05-07-2010, 08:26 PM
L.O.L. You continue to deliver.

That was a good comparison between debit and credit cards, but when will you better address my question as well as enlighten xan, myself, and others how credit cards are for women? I'm hoping what I'm actually asking in my last question doesn't elude you.

-Omerta-
05-08-2010, 11:47 AM
L.O.L. You continue to deliver.

That was a good comparison between debit and credit cards, but when will you better address my question as well as enlighten xan, myself, and others how credit cards are for women? I'm hoping what I'm actually asking in my last question doesn't elude you.

it has and what im avoiding.

Hojunhu
05-08-2010, 02:31 PM
Omerta, you can hook up your debIt card up to PayPal. It's a good idea to have money that you can use to buy something online, or you get stuck in your present situation. Also, I'm failing to see how building a good credit score for future endeavours such as buying a house is womanly.

rehpyc
05-08-2010, 02:55 PM
Logic, spelling, and reading comprehension elude him.

-Omerta-
05-08-2010, 03:52 PM
Omerta, you can hook up your debIt card up to PayPal. It's a good idea to have money that you can use to buy something online, or you get stuck in your present situation. Also, I'm failing to see how building a good credit score for future endeavours such as buying a house is womanly.

what part of my bank accounts are all over drawn dont you understand. I can USE the debt cards directly as a method to purchase items online if i had money in said banks.

Hojunhu
05-08-2010, 11:57 PM
what part of my bank accounts are all over drawn dont you understand. I can USE the debt cards directly as a method to purchase items online if i had money in said banks.
I have like..500$ in cash on me, i just dont have a method of purchasing it online.
Take the $500 and insert into your bank accounts and pay back? o.O



Also, I'm failing to see how building a good credit score for future endeavours such as buying a house is womanly.

-Omerta-
05-09-2010, 12:00 AM
Take the $500 and insert into your bank accounts and pay back? o.O

i owe them alot

Hojunhu
05-09-2010, 01:30 AM
i owe them alot
Not on the 62 cents account.

Also, I'm failing to see how building a good credit score for future endeavours such as buying a house is womanly.

rehpyc
05-09-2010, 02:09 AM
Perhaps you should worry more about addressing your financial issues and less about fixing your computer up enough to be more suitable for gaming. Seems like you have some sound priorities.

As you can see, some of us still look forward to your wisdom of credit cards being for women.

-Omerta-
05-09-2010, 02:00 PM
Perhaps you should worry more about addressing your financial issues and less about fixing your computer up enough to be more suitable for gaming. Seems like you have some sound priorities.

As you can see, some of us still look forward to your wisdom of credit cards being for women.

i never said they were for women? You asked a question how credit cards are for women as a terrible joke of calling me a woman? I have no clue.

also my financial issues are none of your concern unless you wanna pay them for me :D

aetch
05-09-2010, 04:43 PM
i never said they were for women? You asked a question how credit cards are for women as a terrible joke of calling me a woman? I have no clue.

also my financial issues are none of your concern unless you wanna pay them for me :D

a few posts up

Credit cards are for women, i've had 2 debt cards. 1 has 62 cents in the checking account and the other i owe alot of money lol.

look, basically, here's the thing with credit cards you need to understand. credit cards are a great way to build your credit, but just because you have a high limit, doesn't mean you are supposed to reach that limit. if you dont have the money, dont put it on your credit card. pay them off in full, then you won't be sitting there having to pay for your $20 purchase + $70 in interest

-Omerta-
05-09-2010, 06:51 PM
a few posts up



look, basically, here's the thing with credit cards you need to understand. credit cards are a great way to build your credit, but just because you have a high limit, doesn't mean you are supposed to reach that limit. if you dont have the money, dont put it on your credit card. pay them off in full, then you won't be sitting there having to pay for your $20 purchase + $70 in interest

I don't have ANY credit cards. I didn't even realize i said that post rofl, anyway credit cards are for women because they ruin mens lives with them, it's their theoretical job.

This is the reason why i stay with debt.

docphilosophy
05-09-2010, 07:03 PM
credit cards are a great way to build your credit



little known fact: once you ditch the specific card you built credit with, that credit is gone. its not something that carries over to your actual credit score. they may have changed that though. last time i checked was over 3 years ago.

v3locity
05-09-2010, 08:23 PM
little known fact: once you ditch the specific card you built credit with, that credit is gone. its not something that carries over to your actual credit score. they may have changed that though. last time i checked was over 3 years ago.

das brutal

rehpyc
05-09-2010, 10:37 PM
I believe things are different now, doc. Either way, opening new accounts slightly lowers your score, and longevity helps it. If you keep your money with one or two credit unions and have credit cards through them.. I don't see why you'd close them, either directly or through inactivity, if your intentions are to keep a good credit score/history.

Omerta, credit cards are for people who can actually manage their funds properly, which you clearly cannot. They are only as harmful as the person holding the account allows them to be. Instead of your heavy overdraft fees, you would have only had to deal with minor financing fees if you didn't have enough money at the time to cover all your expenses. Have fun when you finally decide to buy a car or house and need a loan.

P.S. It's debit ffs.

Hojunhu
05-09-2010, 10:41 PM
I think we're beating a dead horse here.

-Omerta-
05-09-2010, 11:35 PM
I believe things are different now, doc. Either way, opening new accounts slightly lowers your score, and longevity helps it. If you keep your money with one or two credit unions and have credit cards through them.. I don't see why you'd close them, either directly or through inactivity, if your intentions are to keep a good credit score/history.

Omerta, credit cards are for people who can actually manage their funds properly..


I run a business because my father got diagnosed with partial Parkinson's, i go to college for ROTC, and have been going to court for over 3 years going on 4 starting july.

You try paying for a lawyer for 4 years on top of everything else with a job under 40k a year. I've bought 2 cars in my life time and maintained 5 dead beat vehicles, lived on my own since 17, & i have a bastard child in Canada because she "didn't want to lose me" and stopped taking her birth control medication without telling me, which is another court case of it's own.

I can go on with the "sob" story that is my life but you're irrelevant & the basis of my argument has been stated. Also your useless advice about "how to handle my checking accounts" is pointless as i stated the reason WHY i over drafted the account to begin with, but your tunnel vision obviously has you down the path of "righteousness"

I don't enjoy personally flaming but, i HATE when people get personal with my life if you know nothing about it. Quit being a conceited cock sucker, your E-peen with thank you later. :beer:

rehpyc
05-09-2010, 11:43 PM
You make it too easy.

-Omerta-
05-09-2010, 11:46 PM
You make it too easy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/xXCloudStrifeXx/1265070163701.jpg

docphilosophy
05-10-2010, 02:00 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v195/xXCloudStrifeXx/1265070163701.jpg

ROFL